Your question was: Have you tried this "cleansing product" from VitaminShoppe?.

All I have on hand is test E, deca, test prop, and anavar. I figured test prop and anavar would be his best bet...

He will still hold water on the test prop... if hes looking to peak for a particular shoot then have him run the prop for 5 weeks and the var for 6 (cutting the prop a week out) that should harden him up nicely for a specific date..

Otherwise as has been said... diet is key.. if gear is a must get some arimidex to keep the bloat off and run any test you want...

Ok, great - I'll see exactly when his shoot is. That sounds like a good plan for cutting bloat Lee - thanks..

Lee; would it not be better with proviron for hardness?..

Different strokes for different folks I suppose....

I would always say arimidex is best for stopping any type of test bloat/water retention simply because ive seen it work well with a wide range of people..

Proviron would increase the hardness look... but in theory you could go on and on and add a hundred different compounds in....

Basically the way I like to look at it is if someone knows what works best for them in relation to keeping the bloat off then they should always stick to that (proviron is a good un) - if they dont know.. I reccomend arim!..