I am also all for leaving it on a good note too!  (See my thread I just started). .

If the person refuses to communicate with you, then there's nothing you can do..

I guess you can shoot a nice text or email and wish them well.  Depends on you. .

If I hate the person, of course I won't bother.  But if they weren't horrid, then sending out positive energy is always good, imo. ..

You don't need a final talk. It's over. The way you get closure is by looking within yourself, recognizing that this "relationship" never could have gone anywhere, in such a way that you really never had one at all... So whether or not it's a "breakup" is dubious to me when it kind of seems like nothing really got started.

You don't need to talk to him to know that this is over. Don't worry about what to do if you theoretically run into him at a restaurant someday, that's less important than now...

Well, there's an up-date.  He sent me an email this morning and asked me what I was doing Tuesday night and was I available and we could go wherever I'd like, with a smiley face attached.  I don't think he's looking for a break-up talk because his invitation is too genuine.  I would then think he's being a bit clueless but the fact that he emailed rather than call, which is not his style (he prefers to talk), shows he's testing the response.   Maybe he's lonely.  Maybe he wants sex.  Maybe he's having a hard time letting go.  .

Yes, I would say things between us are dubious. .

It looks like a break-up talk is heading my way..

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Let's break this down..

1) "He is still in love with his ex-GF, and she's still around.".

2)  "Hes not yet divorced.".

3)  "He has kids."  .

4) "He has a woman friend who is interested in him and they see each other regularly".

This'll read harsh, but it sounds like you're the one who is maybe lonely, wants sex, etc? .

Bec why else would you ever under God's earth entertain going out with someone with all of the above????..

LOL can I change my answer? Yeah you are definitely gonna have to set this one straight now...

Well, as you can imagine, since I met him on an OLD web-site, he didn't arrive at the first meet and confess all of those things!  He arrived at the first meet with lots of charm and good humor and quite good looking.  That he had kids was not a problem.  I have kids.  That he was not yet divorced was not really a problem.  With assets and child custody it takes awhile to reach a settlement to un-wind the marriage.  That he had women friends was not really a problem on a surface level because I have men friends.  And I was also dating (online dating with Match.com) others, too..

Where do we get to where these things emerge and really become a problem?  Time marched on, and we got to know each other.  And within this past month we started growing much closer and much more affectionate.  Then I met the quasi-GF, about two weeks ago, and a new picture emerged.  And then on Thursday he told me about his ex-GF.  That brings me up to our conversation on Saturday night.  The true deal-killer though?  He admitted his ambivalence..

Anyhow, I'm not entertaining dating (online dating with Match.com) him any longer.  I was rather wondering whether or not I should even call him to say "It's over" or just let it go.  Since he contacted me, I'm going to have the break up chat..

P.S.  BTW, this isn't the only guy I've met on OLD who shapes up to be other than how he initially presents himself.  I don't think of OLD as desperate or lonely and I know the process well enough not to be duped.  I will agree that I took risks because I enjoyed the sex, though...

Tewey,.

I followed most of your posts, not least because you write so eloquently and beautifully, and have a question for you: is the  man in quesiton the toxic one, the 'on and off' more-than-FWB/less-than-bf who having spent a lovely night with you on a Friday, told you to leave him alone whilst chatting up some woman in a pub on a Saturday - you were unfortuate enough to bump into him there? Is this the same person? Please G*d tell me it isn't??..

No, no, I sent the FWB guy, who I found chatting at the bar with another woman, packing the next day.  Well, though, I should probably call him fWB (de-emphasizing the "friend" part given how it all played out), and he evidently didn't have a whole lot of packing to do.   .

And thanks for the compliment.  :-).

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Boys are a pain sometimes.Personally, I would be hurt if I was with someone for six months and he said he was still thinking about the ex. Sort of like he's been keeping me around until he figures out what he wants. I might feel a little used.In the past I would have 'fought for my man' so to speak. I would need to prove how much better I was. But now I think, if you dont' want me, fine, whatever, but don't think I am going to go along for the ride. I have too much to do with my life to play this game.I think it's wise to stay away from separated men. They are all over the place, there's a little too much of sowing wild oats...

Well, in fairness to him, I was off in the melodrama of exiting fWB guy from my life for awhile.  That's one of the problems with OLD: over-lapping dates.  I think I should go on a dating (online dating with Match.com) hiatus for awhile!  Except that I'm about to go off to brunch with a new guy who, thank goodness, I did NOT meet on match.com.  ;-D.

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Sounds like it was a break up talk. You can text him you wish him well, you've enjoyed spending time with him and if you run into him at a restaurant say hi.

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